The  MoCA   presents


an  interview  with

David Eugene Lemley

The MoCA conducts interviews with prominent artists who have gained wide recognition, as well as emerging artists who have shown exceptional potential in their fields. The published interviews help our readers learn about some of the most promising artistic voices of our times.

The MoCA recently sat down with artist David Eugene Lemley to conduct an in-depth interview where the artist gives an extensive portrayal of his works. While the conversational nature of the interview has been preserved, it has been lightly edited for relevance and continuity.

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As a designer, I used that success to become an adjunct professor.

David Eugene Lemley

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The MoCA > Hello, and welcome to THE MAGAZINE OF CONTEMPORARY ART! Before we start, it would be a great idea for our readers to check out the website to see your artistic production so they’re able to get familiarized with your art.

The MoCA > First, it would be great if you can briefly tell us who you are and what you do.

My name is David Eugene Lemley and I spend my days at the intersection of psychology and craftsmanship. I have been painting since I was 15 years old. By the time I graduated from art school in the mid 1980’s I could draw and paint like my instructors. But, I headed into commercial art because I didn’t want to be a starving artist. However, I promised myself that, after accomplishing my goals of seeing my design work become beloved across the planet, I would retire from design and become the next Picasso. (I am a little behind schedule.)

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I have learned to see myself as much the teacher’s pet, the delinquent child, and the teacher all at the same time.

The MoCA > How about a little more from your background? Have there been life experiences that led you towards becoming a successful artist?

As a designer, I went on to become part of group of reknowned Seattle graphic designers who were adept at taking the discipline and constructs of Swiss (and German) grid-based thinking and upending them with painterly, gestural, and whimsical composition. When digitized, this approach spawned a whole approach to graphic design which was immortalized when I had the good fortune to work with the leadership team at Starbucks Coffee to create the visual and experiential ecosystem they used to build a store-per-day, forever.

As a designer, I used that success to become an adjunct professor. I used my platform then to teach many of the Pacific Northwest’s best designers how to integrate expressionist thinking into the otherwise, rigid grid-based system of graphic design. I helped commoditize the methodology of modern design.

I found myself hungering for something more dangerous, so I began to write… and paint, differently. I painted with intention to unlearn everything I knew about line, form, color, light and shadow, perspective, realism, photography, optimized composition, edge tension, and the principles of graphic design.

For years I considered my work abstract expressionism, until I started hanging out with abstract artists who thought me having words, poetry and scripture woven into my work was antithetical to the very premise of abstract art.

The MoCA > We all know evolution is something that all creative humans endure. How’s that been for you, and have you had any significant influences that had honed your artistic evolution?

From where I sit today, my earlier works, constructed around themes of family dynamics, open hearted-lust for cubism, and sexual tension, feel like I was still showing off anything that would get attention (my skills as a draftsman, typographer, poet). Today, having glued back the pieces of the broken China plates that make up life, I am much clearer that my paintings are part of the imperfect zeitgeist that will speak to people (both present and future generations) about the plain and the painful, the broken and imperfect, the beautiful in spirit (if not in style) whose lives have been hurt by religiosity, legalism, and our systemically unfair society. I paint for the plain, the shamed, the stranger in the family. And for those who feel that they are shut outside the love of God.

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My pallet is constantly evolving and I use color as a way to put shape to feelings that otherwise might go on forever as linework.

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The MoCA > The application, and even the philosophy of art has constantly changed over time. How have you dealt with those changes?

By keeping a beginner’s mind. 

"In the beginner’s mind, the possibilities are many, but in the master’s mind they are few.” – zen master Shunryo Suzuki.

I have learned to see myself as much the teacher’s pet, the delinquent child, and the teacher all at the same time. It helps me avoid the trap of settling for the limited possibilities of the master. 

So I take workshops, read above my grade-level, and make ugly things on purpose. And learn from them.

The MoCA > It’s very interesting to see that you’ve had a particular love for the Spanish masters. How has knowing them influenced your current artistic practices?

Spain is everything! I have loved the stories that go with the artists and their work. From Goya’s deeply textured, dark portraits, while going slightly mad painting the queen for the king, to Salvador Dali and his assertion, “take me, I am the drug” – The storytelling of the Spanish masters has captured my attention since I was a boy. And then there was Picasso. Holy shirt balls, I wanted to be him! I needed that striped shirt and longed to be run out of the country because of my work.

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I am moved by the collision at the intersection of faith and reason, humanity in all its soupy, messy, everyday-glory.

The MoCA > Your body of works is rightly seen as being based somewhat upon the New York abstract expressionists, particularly, de Kooning. Has this been deliberate or is it unintentional? What’s the approach you’re going for?

It’s an unintended consequence of my journey to unlearn everything about technique. The more freely I paint, the more it draws comparison. Perhaps it is because, like the mid-century masters, I have let go of making things that I can capture with a camera in favor of representing the gesture and the emotion of the subject over the physicality and reality of the subject.

The MoCA > The bright color you’ve used in your works is quite notable. For instance, in “Remembering the Bones we Pick,” the red has been pervasive throughout. What makes you stick to a particular color on your canvas?

Color as a field can represent so much. In the case of Remembering the bones we pick, – a painting about looking at loss through the lens of optimism and choice – the intense red is like the argument, the anger, the picnic blanket upon which to have that feast.

My pallet is constantly evolving and I use color as a way to put shape to feelings that otherwise might go on forever as linework. When I think of color, I fondly remember the first time I read Kurt Vonnegut’s novel, Bluebeard. In the story, the main character is an abstract expressionist painter who describes his use of flat color and lines of tape so beautifully, that it has shaped my thinking.

“The field of green is the forest, the three blue stripes of tape are the deer and that red line... is a hunter.”

Now imaging that kind of graceful thinking smashing together with rock music. That is how I approach color in the moment.

The MoCA > What’s the usual manner in which you create your works? Do you plan everything beforehand?

Planning happens in fits and starts. I rarely set out saying, I am going to make a blue background to represent this particular idea. Instead, I might have a novel I am reading, or news, or meditation, or scripture that I am wrestling with. And I chew on it like a mantra until it ends up, sometimes like a spat-up wad of tobacco, on the canvas.

Being committed to the beginner’s mind really helps here. It helps me continuously push myself to paint without a plan, without a pre-conceived notion of the narrative, the composition, the technique and the outcome. It is a process of building, destroying, overthrowing, occupying. A wax-on, wax-off approach to burial and excavation.

The MoCA > Artists need a constant source of inspiration; so, tell us what inspires you?

Inspired by people, music, family, and the mash-up of plain lives and epic stories. I am moved by the collision at the intersection of faith and reason, humanity in all its soupy, messy, everyday-glory.

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Everyday themes are universal and I believe it’s what connects people to my work.